The budget committee report was the first to be presented. Three motion were contained in this report. The first was to reappoint their current auditor. I spoke against the motion by proposing an amendment. The amendment read, “BIFRT the Canadian Federation of Students open the audit postion to the public through competitive process for the 2010-2011 National General Meeting.” I felt this amendment was completely reasonable as the board stated that they usually change auditors every 4-5 years, as common practice, I stated that as well as opening the process wiuld allow the federation to seach for a more qualified auditor, and even cheaper for the position, as well as with the new accounting standands coming into place, a new auditor may be more efficient. The amendment failed, thanks to the confusion brought on by UBC-Okanagan staff. The motion passed without the amendment.
The other two motion passed to adopt the budget, and the financial statements.
The Electoral report was passed omnibus to appoint the entire elected representative to their respective positions which passed omnimus.
The Campaigns reports was issued and all the motions were adopted whether it be through omnibus or through debate. This is the point of the conference when I realized why students believe in the CFS. The federation proposes several campaigns that spark emotions within the organization and its members. The motion that ignited the room was one that proposed to the federation to aid the First Nations University of Canada to stop the government from closing its doors. The speaker received a standing ovation and the motion was passed unanimously. It was also at this point in the day were I was disappointed in our own council. The federation will provide a single local with its support to help a school keep its doors open, but we won’t take the initiative to show up for its council meetings, some of the campus events, or even join a team to help raise money for cancer. Even if the motives of the are a bit extreme and sometimes flawed the initiative to do something for its students is there. Whether it be to support the use of 100% sweat-free t-shirts or to draft a policy on sexual assault the motives are there. And I believe this is the main thing missing from the KSA Council.
So when it comes to the OSD motions unless mentioned the motions were passed via omnibus, or do not really affect the KSA or its students. The numbers of the motions may be mistaken but the motions descriptions are correct.
Motion 89 – recommended for defeat in entirety
This motion was to place all minutes of the meetings online for the public. This motion was defeated as the Canadian federation of student stated that the motion would allow potential enemies to gain insight into their campaigns and pose a potential threat. Motion Failed
Motion 07 – recommended to adopt
This motion failed as the CFS does not want to have any election online presently or in the future. The arguments were placed that the system is full of holes, and easily hacked while bring up the UBC election. Two individuals spoke for and the question was called. I was in line to speak against the motion to ban online voting, before the question was called, and called point of information requesting to know if an individual can call the question before someone has spoken on each side of the argument. The judge ruled in my favour and gave me the chance to speak. I passed the opportunity to Kelsey the UVSS rep who had a more reasonable argument then I had. He spoke against and the vote was called. The motion passed and the CFS will not perform any online voting
Motion 13 – Motion to adopt with amendment.
The amendment and the motion passed on the motion. The amendment stated that the only thing being changed was the federate to certify, and defederate to decertify. This motion passed but it is a motion brought up in another from the November AGM. This motion was previously motion 6 which was illegally passed to increase the quorum to decertify from the federation.
Motion 28 – Motion to adopt
Motion to increase quorum for election from 5% to 10% of student population. Carried
Motion 30 – motion to adopt
Motion to have the ability to remove names from a petition if requested by the student. Motion passed. People explained that students shouldn’t sign a petition when drunk and
Motion 70 had to do with the student association collecting a list of the student list from school whenever a referendum takes place. I spoke out against this motion at the stand. I can’t believe how nervous one can be speaking out to openly express their opinion on a topic. After a weekend of the CFS, it seemed to feel like every eye is on you hoping that you drop on the spot or embarrass yourself at the stand in front of around 500 – 600 students . As I felt very passionate against this motion I feel I spoke confidently. I spoke out expressing my concern for the privacy of students in that many universities refuse to give their student unions the information regarding the students registers, and to punish a student with the double ballot voting system as the faculty refuse to provide the list is unfair, and can even detract from many universities hitting the quorum of 10% of the student population that was just passed. I also mentioned that I believe passing the motion and fighting the universities to obtain the list may be an issue of the privacy act. Students do not consent to their personal information even student number to be given to an outside body and doing such could end in a lawsuit if the student were to conplain as there was now consent given by each respective student. After speaking against this point an individual called the question. Not allowing another individual to talk after I had finished as one person had spoken for and one against. I believe that this motion was meant to pass after the discussions at all caucuses, constituencies, BC delegation, and even the OSD discussion that I attended without speaking rights. After speaking the vote occurred and the motion was defeated. Schools no longer have to provide student information to the CFS for voting purposes.
Motion 76 was the motion to have the ability to request member ship dues from the federation within 30 days of request along with the financial position of the organization. This motion passed with an amendment to send an annual letter to each local showing their financial position and delegate fees. This will allow all school to understand exactly how much is outstanding if the local is trying to decertify.
Motion 78 was a motion put in place to have each member local has access to a vote regardless of their financial position and membership dues. This motion was defeat, as foreseen with some common logic to back it up. By allowing a member to vote without paying delegate fees seems to pass a punishment and not allow a solid plan for the federation to collect its fees.
Motion 80 was to move a disabilities representative placed on the national executive. The federation requested more thought be placed on this motion and passed it be recommended to the national executive.
Motion 94 was placed by the KSA in order to allow additional media entrances into opening and closing plenary. The members discussed that they already allow a single reporter , pro-CFS reporter, into the meeting to document the proceedings. It was also mentioned that other media was brought to the CFS National Meetings before and many issues had arisen. The motion was defeated.
Motion 96 was to have the federation put their financial statements and budget online. There was an amendment to remove budget. The motion as voted on before I anyone could talk about this motion, as the question was called. After the voted I realized I should have called point of order as we had put the motion forward and had the right to motivate. I didn’t the vote occurred and the motion carried. The federation will not be putting their statements online and they will only be available at the KSA office.
Any motion that wasn’t discussed was passed by omnibus, unless I forgot one.
Finally the policy report came, and the motions were proposed for omnibus. Some were pulled and will be discussed at the November AGM.
Thursday, May 27, 2010
Tuesday, May 25, 2010
Day 4: The Calm Before the Storm
The second portion of Day 4 was when the KSA delegates split from each other to attend the different committees at night. Harj attended the campaigns committee, Reena, Matt, and Matthew all had shared votes on policies and I went to OSD to observe the results and recommendations to the closing plenary meeting. I am going to quickly explain each motion and the decision and rational, if any, to why it was voted in a particular way.
2009/11 039 – Recommend for Adoption
This motion was put forward to provide local webhosting and email addresses to each local to encourage the development of their online presence. Several spoke explaining that it will improve efficiency of the federation and accessibility. This motion was carried.
2009/11 068 – Recommendation to adopt
This motion involved the further developed the ISIC card, and was put to vote with no motivation
This motion was carried, then ruled out of order.
Motion 89 – recommended for defeat in entirety
Motion 89 was put forward to encourage the federeation to post all minutes associated with the DFS online for members to access at anytime. The individuals who spoke in favour of defeat, explaining that placing these minutes online is a breach of federation confidentiality and placement of informationation on this site would risk a potential breach in their system allowing their enemies to gain access to their strategies and goals. The next arguements is that the federation is not allowed to post unradified minutes on the site until the minutes are passed 6 months later. This lead to the end of discussion and the committee votes. The motion to defeat carried. Motion 89 failed
Motion 07 – recommended to adopt
The motion was to adopt he policy stating that the federation will not hold an online voting system at anytime in the future, as paper voting is more secure . Several individuals spoken in favour of adoption with points including paper ballots uphold the sanctity of the ballot, and cannot be replaced by an online vote. One individual stated that as there is no specific polling station, and each computer is technically a polling station there would be no allowance for campaigning on election day. As a point of information it states in KSA bylaws that we are not allowed to campaign during the voting hours to ensure the vote is preformed without bias. Several other points we made. Local 41 stated that they have help 3 votes online with online 1 successfully working. He stated that electronic voting is not reliable and the amount of fraud prevelant in todays online voting structure is too unsafe. Also mentioned was that people have the ability to hold parties, and transport the laptop(polling station) to individuals to encourage voting in the election. Both UBD and U of T were discussed mentioning the troubling fraud of online voting. There was no mention of the KSA or SFSS student union paper vote fraud, the US presidential election, or any fraudulent activitlies in which paper voting was involved. This motion was put to a vote and carried, recommended defeat.
Motion 09 – Recommended for adoption with amendment
This motion involved the conflict of interest policy put in place for the national exec where the amendment was to replace the “personal information protection and electronic document act in the policy. Both the amendment and the motion were recommended for adoption
Motion 12 – Motion to adopt
This policy was an anti-harassment policy in place to restrict and disciple any improper actions taken against another individual. This motion was carried.
Motion 13 – Motion to adopt with amendment.
Now I wish I could understand what happened here. The amendment was put in place to “clarify” the language of the policy and ensure that there is little confusion around the bylaw change. The initial intention of the motion is to change the words “federate” and “defederate” to “certifiy”, and “decertify”, respectively. Motion 13 is also considered motion 6 from last year that was illegal passed due to 2/3 vote not being met as many schools walked out during this motion. I will be able to clarify more on this motion after closing plenary. The motion to make an addition amendment was passed, after the motion 13 was notions for adoption at closing plenary.
Motion 15 - Motion to adopt
Motion to extend the notice of each general meeting from 6 weeks to 12., motion carried.
Motion 16 – motion to adopt
Motion to extend the deadline for motion submissions to 6 weeks before meeting. Carried.
Motion 20 – Motion to adopt
Repeal the operations policy and on pubilications be repealed. Carried
Motion 22. – Motion to adopt
All General meetings will be help in the Ottawa/Gatineau area. Carried
Motion 28 – Motion to adopt
Motion to increase quorum for election from 5% to 10% of student population. Carried
Motion 29 – Motion to adopt
Motion to prevent images, any unofficial logo’s on the petition for defederation. Motion carried
Motion 30 – motion to adopt
Motion to have the ability to remove names from a petition if requested by the student. Our BC chair person brought to light that her brother, whom attends Kwantlen, signed a petition to reduce student fees by $8 a semester. This student had actually signed a petition to defederate from the CFS, and was told by the chair to request his name removed from the petition. This motion was carried.
Uvic removed from room as they were video recording the meeting
Motion 31 – Recommended for adoption.
Motion to clarify the campaigning period in more detail. Motion Carried
Motion 32 – Motion to adopt
Motion to have the CFS have access to student lists of all CFS schools in the case of an election. If the student union is unable to obtain the list of students information for the CFS, and double envelope voting system will be put in place. This means that in order to vote a student must fill the ballot in the appropriate manner and place it in an envelope. The student must also provide a description of who they are, possibly address, full name, and other information to have contact information for the students. This is then placed into a bigger envelope along with the voted envelope, and mailed to the appropriate body. I know confusing. This motion is an invasion of privacy and violates the privacy act as student have not given consent for the release of this information. Vote performed, motion to adopt carried.
Motion 33 – motion for defeat
This motion was put in place to determine whether or not the CFS is accountable to its members to provide its outstanding dues before each meeting to ensure they are given access to all meetings and plenary sessions. An amendment was made, and adopted with the amendment
Registered letter defeated
45 days to 30 days amendment passed
Motion 34 – Motion to defeat
Allow members to hold votes with outstanding balance and have the ability to defederate with an outstanding balance. The discussion was made regarding the fact that locals will not be accountable to pay fees after defederation and motion to defeat was carried.
Motion 35 – Motion to refer to national executive
This motion was to have a disabilities representative to the national executive. This would show that the disabilities constituency would be recognized by the national executive. This motion was sent to the graveyard of all CFS motions. Motion to refer to national executive carried.
Motion 42 – Motion to defeat
This motion was put in place by the KSA to have multiple media present at the opening and closing plenary to provide information to the schools, and the public to understand the motions put forward by all the CFS delegates. It was discussed the issue with bringing media to the last meeting and privacy was invaded. It was also discussed that the CFS brings in a report to discuss motions and plenary although the paper is not readily available and the information is heavily manipulated. ODS called this motion bullshit and could not be refuted due to lack of speaking rights. Motion to defeat carried.
Motion 43 – Motion to defeat
This motion was also proposed by the KSA to have the CFS post all financial statements and budgets online. This motion encourages transparency and accountability to the released financial information. The motivation was introduced that even if these motions were placed online few individuals would access them, and the information would be available to public and let enemies understand what is going on in the CFS and open them for attack. It was also stated that the budgets would not be understood by the students anyway. It was even though this motion presents no harm to the CFS they state that the financial statements are available at the student union office to look at, and if you would like to request a copy by email although they will not be published online. The motion to defeat carried.
Motion 45 – Motion to adopt
Motion to repeal the travel cuts policy due to the sale of investment in November. Motion carried.
These were all the motions discussed, the motivations, and the rulings. I will make it easy in the next post to set what has passed and what hasn’t as i will not describe the motion or motivations as they are explained here. If you have any questions or comments please feel free to email me at academics@kusa.ca
2009/11 039 – Recommend for Adoption
This motion was put forward to provide local webhosting and email addresses to each local to encourage the development of their online presence. Several spoke explaining that it will improve efficiency of the federation and accessibility. This motion was carried.
2009/11 068 – Recommendation to adopt
This motion involved the further developed the ISIC card, and was put to vote with no motivation
This motion was carried, then ruled out of order.
Motion 89 – recommended for defeat in entirety
Motion 89 was put forward to encourage the federeation to post all minutes associated with the DFS online for members to access at anytime. The individuals who spoke in favour of defeat, explaining that placing these minutes online is a breach of federation confidentiality and placement of informationation on this site would risk a potential breach in their system allowing their enemies to gain access to their strategies and goals. The next arguements is that the federation is not allowed to post unradified minutes on the site until the minutes are passed 6 months later. This lead to the end of discussion and the committee votes. The motion to defeat carried. Motion 89 failed
Motion 07 – recommended to adopt
The motion was to adopt he policy stating that the federation will not hold an online voting system at anytime in the future, as paper voting is more secure . Several individuals spoken in favour of adoption with points including paper ballots uphold the sanctity of the ballot, and cannot be replaced by an online vote. One individual stated that as there is no specific polling station, and each computer is technically a polling station there would be no allowance for campaigning on election day. As a point of information it states in KSA bylaws that we are not allowed to campaign during the voting hours to ensure the vote is preformed without bias. Several other points we made. Local 41 stated that they have help 3 votes online with online 1 successfully working. He stated that electronic voting is not reliable and the amount of fraud prevelant in todays online voting structure is too unsafe. Also mentioned was that people have the ability to hold parties, and transport the laptop(polling station) to individuals to encourage voting in the election. Both UBD and U of T were discussed mentioning the troubling fraud of online voting. There was no mention of the KSA or SFSS student union paper vote fraud, the US presidential election, or any fraudulent activitlies in which paper voting was involved. This motion was put to a vote and carried, recommended defeat.
Motion 09 – Recommended for adoption with amendment
This motion involved the conflict of interest policy put in place for the national exec where the amendment was to replace the “personal information protection and electronic document act in the policy. Both the amendment and the motion were recommended for adoption
Motion 12 – Motion to adopt
This policy was an anti-harassment policy in place to restrict and disciple any improper actions taken against another individual. This motion was carried.
Motion 13 – Motion to adopt with amendment.
Now I wish I could understand what happened here. The amendment was put in place to “clarify” the language of the policy and ensure that there is little confusion around the bylaw change. The initial intention of the motion is to change the words “federate” and “defederate” to “certifiy”, and “decertify”, respectively. Motion 13 is also considered motion 6 from last year that was illegal passed due to 2/3 vote not being met as many schools walked out during this motion. I will be able to clarify more on this motion after closing plenary. The motion to make an addition amendment was passed, after the motion 13 was notions for adoption at closing plenary.
Motion 15 - Motion to adopt
Motion to extend the notice of each general meeting from 6 weeks to 12., motion carried.
Motion 16 – motion to adopt
Motion to extend the deadline for motion submissions to 6 weeks before meeting. Carried.
Motion 20 – Motion to adopt
Repeal the operations policy and on pubilications be repealed. Carried
Motion 22. – Motion to adopt
All General meetings will be help in the Ottawa/Gatineau area. Carried
Motion 28 – Motion to adopt
Motion to increase quorum for election from 5% to 10% of student population. Carried
Motion 29 – Motion to adopt
Motion to prevent images, any unofficial logo’s on the petition for defederation. Motion carried
Motion 30 – motion to adopt
Motion to have the ability to remove names from a petition if requested by the student. Our BC chair person brought to light that her brother, whom attends Kwantlen, signed a petition to reduce student fees by $8 a semester. This student had actually signed a petition to defederate from the CFS, and was told by the chair to request his name removed from the petition. This motion was carried.
Uvic removed from room as they were video recording the meeting
Motion 31 – Recommended for adoption.
Motion to clarify the campaigning period in more detail. Motion Carried
Motion 32 – Motion to adopt
Motion to have the CFS have access to student lists of all CFS schools in the case of an election. If the student union is unable to obtain the list of students information for the CFS, and double envelope voting system will be put in place. This means that in order to vote a student must fill the ballot in the appropriate manner and place it in an envelope. The student must also provide a description of who they are, possibly address, full name, and other information to have contact information for the students. This is then placed into a bigger envelope along with the voted envelope, and mailed to the appropriate body. I know confusing. This motion is an invasion of privacy and violates the privacy act as student have not given consent for the release of this information. Vote performed, motion to adopt carried.
Motion 33 – motion for defeat
This motion was put in place to determine whether or not the CFS is accountable to its members to provide its outstanding dues before each meeting to ensure they are given access to all meetings and plenary sessions. An amendment was made, and adopted with the amendment
Registered letter defeated
45 days to 30 days amendment passed
Motion 34 – Motion to defeat
Allow members to hold votes with outstanding balance and have the ability to defederate with an outstanding balance. The discussion was made regarding the fact that locals will not be accountable to pay fees after defederation and motion to defeat was carried.
Motion 35 – Motion to refer to national executive
This motion was to have a disabilities representative to the national executive. This would show that the disabilities constituency would be recognized by the national executive. This motion was sent to the graveyard of all CFS motions. Motion to refer to national executive carried.
Motion 42 – Motion to defeat
This motion was put in place by the KSA to have multiple media present at the opening and closing plenary to provide information to the schools, and the public to understand the motions put forward by all the CFS delegates. It was discussed the issue with bringing media to the last meeting and privacy was invaded. It was also discussed that the CFS brings in a report to discuss motions and plenary although the paper is not readily available and the information is heavily manipulated. ODS called this motion bullshit and could not be refuted due to lack of speaking rights. Motion to defeat carried.
Motion 43 – Motion to defeat
This motion was also proposed by the KSA to have the CFS post all financial statements and budgets online. This motion encourages transparency and accountability to the released financial information. The motivation was introduced that even if these motions were placed online few individuals would access them, and the information would be available to public and let enemies understand what is going on in the CFS and open them for attack. It was also stated that the budgets would not be understood by the students anyway. It was even though this motion presents no harm to the CFS they state that the financial statements are available at the student union office to look at, and if you would like to request a copy by email although they will not be published online. The motion to defeat carried.
Motion 45 – Motion to adopt
Motion to repeal the travel cuts policy due to the sale of investment in November. Motion carried.
These were all the motions discussed, the motivations, and the rulings. I will make it easy in the next post to set what has passed and what hasn’t as i will not describe the motion or motivations as they are explained here. If you have any questions or comments please feel free to email me at academics@kusa.ca
Day 4 - Calm Before the Storm
Ok so today was the day where all the motions were brought to the BC delegates, and the constituencies. I started out in the Part-time, and Mature Students Constituency. We were discussing motions for the reps to speak about at the committee meetings later on. I believe we spoke on 3 motions. The first motion was to pass a policy on the privatization of the BBA in Business administration. I did not no much about this motion but the committee as a whole spoke out for this motion against the privatization. Now is the interesting part. We began by discussing the disabilities rep on the national executive. Everyone, including the disabilities constituent in the room did not want this motion to pass, as they did not want the national executive to grow and larger and it would not present solidarity and make it more complicated to hold votes and inform the new rep of decisions made between meetings. I was completely in favour of the motion. Having an individual represent the disability population would drastically increase the voice on the national executive of the CFS, and help properly represent students across Canada, and provide even more of a voice, and opinon into several different motions. Overall the constituency voted against this policy.
Next was the best debate ever. The CFS has developed a policy that basically condemns votes from occurring online at any point in the future, a 2/3 vote would have to occur in favors of repealing the policy.Hahahaha. As I pulled the motion for discussion I motivated. I used examples of fraudulent paper voting cases including the RAF era where the ballot stuffing was caught my Steve Lee at the Richmond campus (nice to know the story of the hole in the roof on richmond campus). I also included the point were Co-op and distance ed, as well as part-time student have a challenge of getting to the school to vote in the election as many work, and do not have the time, whereas an online vote would allow everyone free access to the democratic process.
The same discussion was brought up in BC Delegates. I brought up the SFSS dropping of the ballot box which has lead to several void votes. On top of this I stated that regardless of the system used to vote fraud will always be evident and should be mitigated, an technology will allow use to ensure easy protection of the "Sanctity" of the vote during the election process. BC said that this system was not accessible and much like an early Ipod. As it is still early for online voting technology there are kinks that must be worked out, and we cannot use the system because the kinks may compromise our intentions. Honestly, without trial and error the kinks won't be worked out, and the system won't evolve to its full potential. The BC Delegates voted to recommend defeat of this motion to the committees.
The next discussion involved motion 13. Nimmi mentioned she was placing an amendment to the motion but would not mention what it was, other than a change in grammatical sense. This started debate on the Certify, and De-certify there wasn't much debate until our External spoke using a few extreme example to demonstrate his point which cause the room to have a mass panic. The delegates took this motion way out of proportion and began attacking our delegates, and opinions. During the discussion it was decided to hold onto a recommendation as we were unsure of the amendment.
I will write a part 2 as soon as possible, which will discuss the motions as OSD, and how they will be referred. It is going on 3:40am and I am beginning
to get tired and have to leave again for U of O in a matter of hours.
Please email me for any questions.
Next was the best debate ever. The CFS has developed a policy that basically condemns votes from occurring online at any point in the future, a 2/3 vote would have to occur in favors of repealing the policy.Hahahaha. As I pulled the motion for discussion I motivated. I used examples of fraudulent paper voting cases including the RAF era where the ballot stuffing was caught my Steve Lee at the Richmond campus (nice to know the story of the hole in the roof on richmond campus). I also included the point were Co-op and distance ed, as well as part-time student have a challenge of getting to the school to vote in the election as many work, and do not have the time, whereas an online vote would allow everyone free access to the democratic process.
The same discussion was brought up in BC Delegates. I brought up the SFSS dropping of the ballot box which has lead to several void votes. On top of this I stated that regardless of the system used to vote fraud will always be evident and should be mitigated, an technology will allow use to ensure easy protection of the "Sanctity" of the vote during the election process. BC said that this system was not accessible and much like an early Ipod. As it is still early for online voting technology there are kinks that must be worked out, and we cannot use the system because the kinks may compromise our intentions. Honestly, without trial and error the kinks won't be worked out, and the system won't evolve to its full potential. The BC Delegates voted to recommend defeat of this motion to the committees.
The next discussion involved motion 13. Nimmi mentioned she was placing an amendment to the motion but would not mention what it was, other than a change in grammatical sense. This started debate on the Certify, and De-certify there wasn't much debate until our External spoke using a few extreme example to demonstrate his point which cause the room to have a mass panic. The delegates took this motion way out of proportion and began attacking our delegates, and opinions. During the discussion it was decided to hold onto a recommendation as we were unsure of the amendment.
I will write a part 2 as soon as possible, which will discuss the motions as OSD, and how they will be referred. It is going on 3:40am and I am beginning
to get tired and have to leave again for U of O in a matter of hours.
Please email me for any questions.
Sunday, May 23, 2010
Day 3 Part 2
So since the first portion of this post, I have been to the Large institutions caucus, the BC delegates prep, as well as a portion of finances, and the large majority of the policy committee. To start I will bring up the large institutions. We began by picking delgates for the budget, ODS (previously explained) and the policies committee. At large institution Matt Todd began by requesting a vote on the ODS committee, which resulted in a vote between several individuals. It was rules that we would not send matt, and lost the motion with only 2 votes, ourselves, and UVIC. I went next for my motivation for the Budget committee using the same motivation as mentioned in the last post including my passion for accounting and budgets, as well as the fact i am a fourth year BBA in Accounting Student with large amounts of not-for-profit work in the past, and present. It was voted on and as you could probably guess, i lost the vote with a surprising 3 votes, (Ourselves, UVIC, and an unknown. Policies was next and Reena nominated herself for the vote, and was able to obtain the right to vote without having to vote on delegates at the caucus. Motions 6,7,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,37,38,and 40 were pulled from the motion to discuss. the session was recessed till tomorrow.
The next meeting was with the BC delegates. Much of the small thing happened, myself for budget, Matt for ODS. Both motions failed of course. At this point, I was past the point of frustration due to the lack of independce the CFS shows in repescting ones opinion through slate voting to ensure only those of CFS power are able to attend the Budget, and ODS meetings. Who would have ever thought to send a fourth year BBA student with a passion for accounting and volunteer work within the student body to a budget, and finance meeting. I failed in all three counts to receive no representation of the committee representations for Kwantlen Students or the KSA. At this point in the meeting after failing for the third time, I walked out of the room for about 5 minutes to calm down. At the end of this meeting, I was nominated by another local for a vote on polices, which myself and Matt Todd share with one other individual.
At this point, I finally realized no matter what your intentions are if you are not associated positively through CFS delegates, there will be no hope to accurately have a student voice heard. My intentions for budget as spoken during motivation were to help in the allocation of funds, and help voice the student in how to properly manage fees to encourage improved service access, improved campaign alternatives, and improved communication throughout the organization. Nothing that is meant to harm or deceive anyone. Obtaining so few votes only confirms that the Local 26 is the plague of the CFS, and should not be associated with at any time.
By the end of the voting, Myself, Reena, Matt, and Matthew all had votes on Policies while Harj went to the Campaigns meeting. To being I went to the budget meeting in an attempt to obtain a copy of the budget, and determine if there were any gross errors. Unfortunately the room was so small that when I briefly left, my spot was taken and their was no room left for me. I then went to the Policy meeting were I had a voice, although the motions discussed seemed somewhat debatable and useless, bu neverthe less we spent 2 hours on the motion 02 about the upass policy which was passed, we moved that the technology motion be tabled till the next meeting, and passed the rationalization policy. The rest of the policies will be brought up tomorrow. I won't be attending this meeting as I feel my voice is better of at OSD discussing motions, and not on discussing policies. At the end of the night it has become clear to me the most CFS delegates sent are not the rational people student union representatives should be, but the dictators that cause revolts, restrict freedom of speech.
Tomorrow will have another update on a bunch of meetings I attend including the
Part time constituency, the BC delegates, the and the OSD Meeting which may be long. I will attempt to have an update up by tomorrow night although due to the amount of motions to be considered at OSD this meeting may not end till the wee hours of the morning on Tuesday. Keep posting and reading and leave your feedback.
The next meeting was with the BC delegates. Much of the small thing happened, myself for budget, Matt for ODS. Both motions failed of course. At this point, I was past the point of frustration due to the lack of independce the CFS shows in repescting ones opinion through slate voting to ensure only those of CFS power are able to attend the Budget, and ODS meetings. Who would have ever thought to send a fourth year BBA student with a passion for accounting and volunteer work within the student body to a budget, and finance meeting. I failed in all three counts to receive no representation of the committee representations for Kwantlen Students or the KSA. At this point in the meeting after failing for the third time, I walked out of the room for about 5 minutes to calm down. At the end of this meeting, I was nominated by another local for a vote on polices, which myself and Matt Todd share with one other individual.
At this point, I finally realized no matter what your intentions are if you are not associated positively through CFS delegates, there will be no hope to accurately have a student voice heard. My intentions for budget as spoken during motivation were to help in the allocation of funds, and help voice the student in how to properly manage fees to encourage improved service access, improved campaign alternatives, and improved communication throughout the organization. Nothing that is meant to harm or deceive anyone. Obtaining so few votes only confirms that the Local 26 is the plague of the CFS, and should not be associated with at any time.
By the end of the voting, Myself, Reena, Matt, and Matthew all had votes on Policies while Harj went to the Campaigns meeting. To being I went to the budget meeting in an attempt to obtain a copy of the budget, and determine if there were any gross errors. Unfortunately the room was so small that when I briefly left, my spot was taken and their was no room left for me. I then went to the Policy meeting were I had a voice, although the motions discussed seemed somewhat debatable and useless, bu neverthe less we spent 2 hours on the motion 02 about the upass policy which was passed, we moved that the technology motion be tabled till the next meeting, and passed the rationalization policy. The rest of the policies will be brought up tomorrow. I won't be attending this meeting as I feel my voice is better of at OSD discussing motions, and not on discussing policies. At the end of the night it has become clear to me the most CFS delegates sent are not the rational people student union representatives should be, but the dictators that cause revolts, restrict freedom of speech.
Tomorrow will have another update on a bunch of meetings I attend including the
Part time constituency, the BC delegates, the and the OSD Meeting which may be long. I will attempt to have an update up by tomorrow night although due to the amount of motions to be considered at OSD this meeting may not end till the wee hours of the morning on Tuesday. Keep posting and reading and leave your feedback.
Day 3 Part 1
This morning I attended the Part time and Mature students constituency to try and obtain a vote for either budget, or OSD. The committee seemed to be compromised of student union staff. I nominated myself for budget, and OSD giving my motivation for each before the secret ballot for each of the votes. My motivation for the budget committee included the fact that i was a third year student enrolled at Kwantlen in the BBA in Accounting at a part time status, taking classes in management accounting and developed budgets. I said I have already looked into the financial analysis of thee financial statements presented and performed a partial ratio analysis to determine the over position of the CFS and what can be done to help them. In the end I lost to two staff members and a student.
The second committee I attempted to get onto was the organizational and service development Committee. I was up against 9 other people. My motivation for this committee was the regarding the referendum recently passed to approval the addition services to be provided by the KSA, the debt sentence campaign and the nation wide reduction of credit card usage, and the onepassnow campaign to get a standardized upass for the province. My motivation was not taken seriously as many people were shaking there heads at I spoke and I would assume explaining the "Local 26" situation.
In the end I received no votes, and our constituency sent their delegates to the committee meetings without a proper discussion of the motions to be debated, and Ending early. More to come later as I try to get votes from the Large caucus and the BC prep meetings.
The second committee I attempted to get onto was the organizational and service development Committee. I was up against 9 other people. My motivation for this committee was the regarding the referendum recently passed to approval the addition services to be provided by the KSA, the debt sentence campaign and the nation wide reduction of credit card usage, and the onepassnow campaign to get a standardized upass for the province. My motivation was not taken seriously as many people were shaking there heads at I spoke and I would assume explaining the "Local 26" situation.
In the end I received no votes, and our constituency sent their delegates to the committee meetings without a proper discussion of the motions to be debated, and Ending early. More to come later as I try to get votes from the Large caucus and the BC prep meetings.
Saturday, May 22, 2010
CFS Day 2
Some of my notes from the opening plenary:
Concordia was not being allowed to enter the opening plenary session due to fee conflicts with the CFS, regarding overdue delegate fees. After requesting for their receipt that states how much the student union owes the CFS, Concordia was denied a spot into the national meeting to bring up the motion that was not included in the agenda due to its order. Concordia was also told they would have to supply a certified cheque for the repayment of their dues with two days notice before the national meeting today, an impossible feat. The motion was brought forward to the KSA delegates to speak on behalf of Concordia university as they were denied entrances in partnership with the UVIC student union. This motion was first attempted at the adoption of the agenda, and told that we would discuss it at other business. The Mcgill grads were in the same positions as Concordia with the CFS failing to recognize their referendum and defederation papers, which successfully achieved their quorum of 5% of the student body, and have the student vote to deferate.
During the opening plenary, I had to leave for the washroom. It was just down the hall from the conference room. I left to go and began walking, as I turned the corner someone was behind me. No-one else was really outside the conference center yet. I went into the washroom, and waited as he also came through the door. He finished the same time I did, and left the same time. Instead of heading directly back to the conference room, I turned left which is the opposite direction, and took a large loop before re-entering the conference center. He didn't let me out of his site once. As i sat down back at the table, he sat down at his. It was an interesting experience. Throughout the plenary, the individual sitting beside me was constantly reading any notes taken, texts sent or read, and notes typed on my computer.
On to the keynote speaker. She tends to do what the CFS do when looking at a problem. Associate it directly to a person or organization, and explain that the rich having money for education and not providing it to the lower class is wrong. It can be seen in the discussion she had for the fact that a single person is the cause of the recent economic downturn. The main message portrayed in this speech was that the hard working/successful people who live in the higher class families are treated too well, and should have to subsidize, or even pay for the lower class tuition.
once the discussion was open to all delegates a point of order was made regarding a missing motion from Mcgill grads defederation papers were not in order when mailed to the CFS, and the national executive had the right to remove such motions from the agenda, while not recognizing that local 79 was a member of the organization
These motions were allowed to be removed due to the national executives "interpretation" of the CFS Bylaws, and can be determined by a subjective decision making process.
Upon the motion to have Mcgill removed from the CFS a vote occured to allow them to leave it was detemined that by a 2/3 vote the are required to stay in the organization due to improper procedures used to defederate. The decision of the chair at that point was debated, although the motion remained as before and Mcgill was denied their removal. Local 91, also brought there defederation to the table, only to be told they must bring it up at the other business.this was the extent of the other business, which was never discussed but I will get to that in a bit.
The motions brought forth by the national executive were to be moved to the appropriate committees for discussion at the conference. All the motions discussed of importance where discussed in french. Each delegate was given a translator device which would allow each person to understand the session. As all motions being considered where discussed in french and the translator of the french language seemed to consistent miss key phrases, stop in mid sentence,and talk slow enough to be a full sentence behind the chair, the KSA delegate had a hard time understanding both what was being discussed, and even when the votes occurred, what we were voting for. When it cam to discussing motions for committees it was moved that the budget committee be approved through amnibus(all at one) while motion 13 was removed for the closing plenary vote and will not be discussed till them by any committees. Motion 12 was also removed from discussion. To see the motions check out: http://eyeontheuvss.blogspot.com/2010/05/empire-strikes-back-cfs-summer-2010-agm.html
finally the meeting came to the other business were each school attempting to defederate was allowed to plead their case. Although, this occurred around 5:00pm. while discussing local 91, the national executive took it upon themselves to delay for 10 minutes, and provide no distinct answers for the school. At exactly 5:30pm, the chair stated,"The translators are officially off duty, and cannot be used any longer for the discussion or other business at this time." All other business including the deferation of schools was dropped the meeting adjourned due to the convenient scheduling of the translators, after starting the meetings an hours late.
This is a basic summary of day to for more information feel free to contact me.
Concordia was not being allowed to enter the opening plenary session due to fee conflicts with the CFS, regarding overdue delegate fees. After requesting for their receipt that states how much the student union owes the CFS, Concordia was denied a spot into the national meeting to bring up the motion that was not included in the agenda due to its order. Concordia was also told they would have to supply a certified cheque for the repayment of their dues with two days notice before the national meeting today, an impossible feat. The motion was brought forward to the KSA delegates to speak on behalf of Concordia university as they were denied entrances in partnership with the UVIC student union. This motion was first attempted at the adoption of the agenda, and told that we would discuss it at other business. The Mcgill grads were in the same positions as Concordia with the CFS failing to recognize their referendum and defederation papers, which successfully achieved their quorum of 5% of the student body, and have the student vote to deferate.
During the opening plenary, I had to leave for the washroom. It was just down the hall from the conference room. I left to go and began walking, as I turned the corner someone was behind me. No-one else was really outside the conference center yet. I went into the washroom, and waited as he also came through the door. He finished the same time I did, and left the same time. Instead of heading directly back to the conference room, I turned left which is the opposite direction, and took a large loop before re-entering the conference center. He didn't let me out of his site once. As i sat down back at the table, he sat down at his. It was an interesting experience. Throughout the plenary, the individual sitting beside me was constantly reading any notes taken, texts sent or read, and notes typed on my computer.
On to the keynote speaker. She tends to do what the CFS do when looking at a problem. Associate it directly to a person or organization, and explain that the rich having money for education and not providing it to the lower class is wrong. It can be seen in the discussion she had for the fact that a single person is the cause of the recent economic downturn. The main message portrayed in this speech was that the hard working/successful people who live in the higher class families are treated too well, and should have to subsidize, or even pay for the lower class tuition.
once the discussion was open to all delegates a point of order was made regarding a missing motion from Mcgill grads defederation papers were not in order when mailed to the CFS, and the national executive had the right to remove such motions from the agenda, while not recognizing that local 79 was a member of the organization
These motions were allowed to be removed due to the national executives "interpretation" of the CFS Bylaws, and can be determined by a subjective decision making process.
Upon the motion to have Mcgill removed from the CFS a vote occured to allow them to leave it was detemined that by a 2/3 vote the are required to stay in the organization due to improper procedures used to defederate. The decision of the chair at that point was debated, although the motion remained as before and Mcgill was denied their removal. Local 91, also brought there defederation to the table, only to be told they must bring it up at the other business.this was the extent of the other business, which was never discussed but I will get to that in a bit.
The motions brought forth by the national executive were to be moved to the appropriate committees for discussion at the conference. All the motions discussed of importance where discussed in french. Each delegate was given a translator device which would allow each person to understand the session. As all motions being considered where discussed in french and the translator of the french language seemed to consistent miss key phrases, stop in mid sentence,and talk slow enough to be a full sentence behind the chair, the KSA delegate had a hard time understanding both what was being discussed, and even when the votes occurred, what we were voting for. When it cam to discussing motions for committees it was moved that the budget committee be approved through amnibus(all at one) while motion 13 was removed for the closing plenary vote and will not be discussed till them by any committees. Motion 12 was also removed from discussion. To see the motions check out: http://eyeontheuvss.blogspot.com/2010/05/empire-strikes-back-cfs-summer-2010-agm.html
finally the meeting came to the other business were each school attempting to defederate was allowed to plead their case. Although, this occurred around 5:00pm. while discussing local 91, the national executive took it upon themselves to delay for 10 minutes, and provide no distinct answers for the school. At exactly 5:30pm, the chair stated,"The translators are officially off duty, and cannot be used any longer for the discussion or other business at this time." All other business including the deferation of schools was dropped the meeting adjourned due to the convenient scheduling of the translators, after starting the meetings an hours late.
This is a basic summary of day to for more information feel free to contact me.
Friday, May 21, 2010
CFS Day 1
First day of the CFS conference was a short but interesting one. Attending the BC delegates meeting with my fellow KSA delegates, including Matt Todd, Reena Bali, Harj Dhesi, and Matthew Dimera, we listened to the opening speeches. The agenda was brief and to the point for the night:
7:15 pm Check – in
8:00 pm Introductions and Overview
8:30 pm Education shouldn’t be a debt sentence
To start off, we are attending the conferences at the university of Ottawa not Carlton University. Myself and the other delegates slipped into the introductions and introduced ourselves as follows:
Name
Local
Something exciting in the past few months
Each KSA delegate spoke stating their name, their school (Kwantlen Polytechnic University) and the exciting news. None of our delegates mention our Local as the other BC delegates did as the is a student organization not a union, and each school is associated with their students not their number therefore Kwantlen Student Association Answers to the KSA not Local 26.
When it came to the Educations shouldn’t be a debt sentence, I was slightly interested. With the rising debt in the country it seems like a good idea to attempt to lower the amount of debt taken on by students. Although, most individuals consider their forms of debt an investment into their future, as most would work simple jobs without a proper education, students that take on debt to obtain an education, pay their debt with the increased wages obtain through a higher education. The biggest flaw I found in the debt sentence program was the issue of “access to equality.” Sounds good in writing till it is explained. The access to equality is a program that explains that it is unfair that those in rich /wealth family have the capability to go school and obtain a higher education without taking on any form of debt while to poor, or unwealthy must obtain loans to go to school and pay off at a later date.
It seems that the CFS argument is that the wealthy should help pay for those your are “unfortunate” enough to have to incur the cost of student loans. How is this “fair” to those who work hard to earn their money and live their “wealthy” lifestyle.
While I do agree with some of their solutions, including increasing the amount of grants available for students that do not have to be repaid to the government and encouraging the province to provide interest free loans to students would be an effective way of lobbying for students, not walking out on a meeting break and march to Parliament to complain during the conference, and achieve an affordable post secondary school system.
That is a shpeal about the first couple hours of the BC delegates prep session, we have an interesting day tomorrow including,
9:00 am – overview of the General Meeting
9:45 am – General Meeting Decision – Making Structures
10:15 am – Rules of order
11:00 am – Review of motions and elections
2:00 pm – Opening plenary
7:15 pm Check – in
8:00 pm Introductions and Overview
8:30 pm Education shouldn’t be a debt sentence
To start off, we are attending the conferences at the university of Ottawa not Carlton University. Myself and the other delegates slipped into the introductions and introduced ourselves as follows:
Name
Local
Something exciting in the past few months
Each KSA delegate spoke stating their name, their school (Kwantlen Polytechnic University) and the exciting news. None of our delegates mention our Local as the other BC delegates did as the is a student organization not a union, and each school is associated with their students not their number therefore Kwantlen Student Association Answers to the KSA not Local 26.
When it came to the Educations shouldn’t be a debt sentence, I was slightly interested. With the rising debt in the country it seems like a good idea to attempt to lower the amount of debt taken on by students. Although, most individuals consider their forms of debt an investment into their future, as most would work simple jobs without a proper education, students that take on debt to obtain an education, pay their debt with the increased wages obtain through a higher education. The biggest flaw I found in the debt sentence program was the issue of “access to equality.” Sounds good in writing till it is explained. The access to equality is a program that explains that it is unfair that those in rich /wealth family have the capability to go school and obtain a higher education without taking on any form of debt while to poor, or unwealthy must obtain loans to go to school and pay off at a later date.
It seems that the CFS argument is that the wealthy should help pay for those your are “unfortunate” enough to have to incur the cost of student loans. How is this “fair” to those who work hard to earn their money and live their “wealthy” lifestyle.
While I do agree with some of their solutions, including increasing the amount of grants available for students that do not have to be repaid to the government and encouraging the province to provide interest free loans to students would be an effective way of lobbying for students, not walking out on a meeting break and march to Parliament to complain during the conference, and achieve an affordable post secondary school system.
That is a shpeal about the first couple hours of the BC delegates prep session, we have an interesting day tomorrow including,
9:00 am – overview of the General Meeting
9:45 am – General Meeting Decision – Making Structures
10:15 am – Rules of order
11:00 am – Review of motions and elections
2:00 pm – Opening plenary
Tuesday, May 4, 2010
A Week in Review
Since my last post, I have had a lot going on. My first AIC meeting occured last Thursday, with a successful turnout. Started out getting a quick introduction of everyone, then right into action. The credit card issue was the first on the agenda. I gave a breif overview of the issue at hand to the committee, and requested information regard how they feel about it and any potential remedies. The majority of the committee were not happy abuot the fact that as a domestic student, they will not be able to pay via credit card, and the payment is going to have to be taken directly from their bank account either directly, or indirectly. I explained UBC's current Payment plans as follows:
New: INTERAC® Online
Electronic funds transfer (EFT)
Online or telephone banking
Cash or cheque at an HSBC Bank Canada branch
Cheque or debit card
Student loan
With National Research Council funding (NSERC, SSHRC, CIHR)
Scholarships
Sponsorship/Third party billing
Staff tuition credits
Teacher certificates
Payroll deduction
Cheque or money order by mail
Incoming wire transfer/deposit
Passport to Education/Youth Options
The committee had me take the policy back and bring it to the next AIC meeting with addition research involving Canadian credit card usage statistics, and information pertinent to Kwantlen Usage.
We looked at potential ways to fight the credit card issues. These include,
Committee paying bills in $5 bills
Giant Posters, much like the Upass posters
Have students pay with credit card and send a signed letter the the president
Email board of governors
Online petition
Send letters the BOG
Ask for Faculty support
The other issue that was brought up at the meeting was the parent/student orientation. This would be combining the already present parent orientation, and student orientation into one event. Through discussion the committee decided it doesn’t enforce student independence and parent attendance would prevent students from building friendships during orientation. They felt this is what open house is for.
Right now students are unable to obtain help past a certain point in the current appeal system. With senate creating an appeal system, at the next meeting of the governance committee, and Senate this will be looked into.
Finally, we looked at readopting the policy for ensuring credit cards are kept of campus. We will also consider ensuring banks are kept of campus.
For any other information, see the report below,
academics-report-May 5_ 2010
New: INTERAC® Online
Electronic funds transfer (EFT)
Online or telephone banking
Cash or cheque at an HSBC Bank Canada branch
Cheque or debit card
Student loan
With National Research Council funding (NSERC, SSHRC, CIHR)
Scholarships
Sponsorship/Third party billing
Staff tuition credits
Teacher certificates
Payroll deduction
Cheque or money order by mail
Incoming wire transfer/deposit
Passport to Education/Youth Options
The committee had me take the policy back and bring it to the next AIC meeting with addition research involving Canadian credit card usage statistics, and information pertinent to Kwantlen Usage.
We looked at potential ways to fight the credit card issues. These include,
Committee paying bills in $5 bills
Giant Posters, much like the Upass posters
Have students pay with credit card and send a signed letter the the president
Email board of governors
Online petition
Send letters the BOG
Ask for Faculty support
The other issue that was brought up at the meeting was the parent/student orientation. This would be combining the already present parent orientation, and student orientation into one event. Through discussion the committee decided it doesn’t enforce student independence and parent attendance would prevent students from building friendships during orientation. They felt this is what open house is for.
Right now students are unable to obtain help past a certain point in the current appeal system. With senate creating an appeal system, at the next meeting of the governance committee, and Senate this will be looked into.
Finally, we looked at readopting the policy for ensuring credit cards are kept of campus. We will also consider ensuring banks are kept of campus.
For any other information, see the report below,
academics-report-May 5_ 2010
Wednesday, April 28, 2010
April 28th, 2010
With the semester winding down, I am getting a high amount of appeals. I met with two students today regarding appeals, one an emotional appeal, the other a grade. I have developed letters for each student in hopes that there appeal is achieved and that they get what they want. Do to the confidentiality of appeals that is about as much detail as I am allowed to explain.
On the other side, I have prepping for my first AIC meeting taking place tomorrow, at 2pm in the KSA boardroom. This meeting will be interesting. We will be mainly talking about the credit card issue, involving the discontinuing of domestic students in using credit cards while allowing international students to continue. I did however stubble across a website saying that in most credit card "merchant agreements" special policies are not allowed to be put in place to provide special access to credit cards at the institute.
I also sent out an FOIPOP request for the merchant agreement between Kwantlen, and Visa in hopes of finding the one line that will help keep access for all students.
On Friday, I will be working on my weekly report to council, which will include updates from the AIC meeting, as well as an update on my projects for the last few weeks.
On the other side, I have prepping for my first AIC meeting taking place tomorrow, at 2pm in the KSA boardroom. This meeting will be interesting. We will be mainly talking about the credit card issue, involving the discontinuing of domestic students in using credit cards while allowing international students to continue. I did however stubble across a website saying that in most credit card "merchant agreements" special policies are not allowed to be put in place to provide special access to credit cards at the institute.
I also sent out an FOIPOP request for the merchant agreement between Kwantlen, and Visa in hopes of finding the one line that will help keep access for all students.
On Friday, I will be working on my weekly report to council, which will include updates from the AIC meeting, as well as an update on my projects for the last few weeks.
Monday, April 26, 2010
Monday April 26, 2010
Today was an interesting day. Today Kwantlen had the privileged of accepting a 2.5 million dollar endowment fund from Irving K. Barber. this money is going toward the development of programs and services to aid in the accessibility of Kwantlen for new and struggling students. These courses and services included potential learning center expansions, transitional program increases, like Lcom 1101, As will as additional online features.
The donation will help the university become a great institute as it already strides itself on the accessibility of its programs to those who may not be able to attend other university's such as UBC, SFU... as there marks may not have been high enough.
The donation will help the university become a great institute as it already strides itself on the accessibility of its programs to those who may not be able to attend other university's such as UBC, SFU... as there marks may not have been high enough.
Friday, April 23, 2010
April 23, 2010
Hello, this is my first post on this working blog. As an update to what I have accomplished thus far in the position I have attached my report below.
Appeals
So far I have been working on two appeals. The first of which was a grade appeal. The student had not received appropriate mark in the course as the instructor had forgotten to add in a missed exam, and missed class lab. Once the instructor realized this they inputted the grades which ultimately raised the student’s grade.
The second appeal was a transfer credit issue. The student was transferring a 5 credit course from SFU to Kwantlen but was only having 3 credits recognized. These were set by the social science faculty and as Kwantlen does not offer lab classes in the program these two credits were not able to be transferred. While these credits may not be transferable they may not be required to complete graduation.
Access to Educational Payment Policy
This policy is currently being drafted to incorporate the KSA opinion on having credit cards available for tuition payments. Kwantlen recently passed a policy prohibiting domestic students from paying tuition using credit cards, while allowing international students the opportunity to continue paying with credit. This is a possible act of discrimination. Feel free to send me your thoughts as to this new Kwantlen Policy and how it would affect you as a student
Completed Academic Concerns, Advocacy and Internal Issues
Committee advertisement has been posted around campus for all executive committees. These are open to students. If you wish to be added to committees please contact me.
Academic Concerns, Advocacy and Internal Issues under Consideration
Library Hours
Kwantlen recently expanded the Library hours till 11 pm on weekdays. How do you feel about this? Do you think the library should be open longer, shorter, more on weekends?
AIC meeting April 29 2010 agenda
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